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Alina Chan

Molecular biologist, postdoctoral researcher at the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard

On the podcast

Alina Chan has appeared on the show twice.

Molecular Biologist Breaks Down the COVID Lab Leak Evidence: Furin Sites, Missing Data, Cover-Up
2021-11-29 · First appearance; discussed co-writing "Viral" with Matt Ridley.
COVID Origin Investigation Update: What We Know 2 Years Later with Molecular Biologist
2022-03-24 · Return appearance, roughly two years after the pandemic began.

On the record

In November 2021, when the lab-leak hypothesis was still widely dismissed as fringe, Chan argued on the show that gain-of-function-adjacent research and a 2016-2019 data gap warranted serious investigation — a position that moved from contrarian to mainstream over the following year.

In their own words

“They were consistently publishing in the top journals... but when you look at that literature, you soon realize that all of the viruses they've described to date have been collected before 2016... this black box window of time between 2016 and 2019.”November 2021, on the Vance Crowe Podcast, on the Vance Crowe Podcast
“If the public is shown that repeatedly and consistently scientists were holding back the facts from them... that would completely break the trust between non-scientists and scientists.”November 2021, on the Vance Crowe Podcast, on the Vance Crowe Podcast
“If you wait two years later, there's so little you can investigate at that point that it will be near impossible. And here we are two years later trying to investigate the origin of this pandemic.”March 2022, on the Vance Crowe Podcast, on the Vance Crowe Podcast

Where this conversation traveled

Moments in later episodes where Alina Chan's ideas and work resurfaced, drawn from the show's transcripts.

The show's year-end awards named Chan's lab-leak work "most relevant for current times," noting it had moved from fringe theory to a subject taken seriously by parliaments and the U.S. president. Listen →
2021 Vance Crowe Podcast Awards, December 2021
Chan co-authored "Viral: The Search for the Origin of Covid-19" with fellow guest Matt Ridley, who credited her 2020 preprint questioning the virus's apparent adaptation to humans as the starting point for their collaboration. Listen →
Matt Ridley, June 2020

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