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Jim Rutt

Former CEO of Network Solutions, former chairman of the Santa Fe Institute, host of The Jim Rutt Show

On the podcast

Jim Rutt has appeared on the show four times.

Jim Rutt: From MIT Dropout to Network Solutions CEO to AI Risk Researcher
2026-06-16 · Published June 2026, in memoriam. Rutt passed away in 2026; this episode is a retrospective tribute drawing on his prior appearances on the show.
AI Expert Explains 8 Ways Artificial Intelligence Could End Civilization
2024-03-27 · Third appearance; focused on AI risk scenarios.
Recording a Podcast in Virtual Reality: Neural Networks, Consciousness, and Game B with Jim Rutt
2021-03-18 · Second appearance, recorded in VR; covered free will, consciousness, and Game B.
Ex-CEO Jim Rutt: Why Facebook Banned My 30,000-Person Community and the Game B Alternative
2021-02-11 · First appearance. Covered deplatforming from Facebook, Game B, and hunter-gatherer social organization.

On the record

In February 2021, Rutt argued on the show that centralized social platforms would keep purging heterodox thinkers through opaque, unappealable algorithmic bans, and urged anyone doing genuine original thinking to build independent infrastructure rather than rely on "rented plots of land" like Facebook and Twitter — a position that anticipated the wave of platform deplatforming controversies and decentralized-alternative projects that followed over the next several years.

In their own words

“It turned out it was probably an algorithm that had been tuned on Q Anon and somehow found our form of thinking... they blasted all three of us simultaneously... typical Facebook kafkaesque governance didn't tell us why... this may not be, cannot be appealed and may not be reversed.”February 2021, on the Vance Crowe Podcast, on the Vance Crowe Podcast
“If we look back at the forager, the hunter gatherers, which constitutes 190,000 of our 200,000 years on earth, they did not organize themselves hierarchically... anyone who tried to pull that game would be first laughed at and then ignored and then exiled... they'd be killed.”February 2021, on the Vance Crowe Podcast, on the Vance Crowe Podcast
“It appears that the decision to move your finger happens somewhere on the order of half a second before you actually move your finger... you have a very short period where you can say, no, don't do it. And that maybe that's all free will is.”March 2021, on the Vance Crowe Podcast, on the Vance Crowe Podcast

Where this conversation traveled

Moments in later episodes where Jim Rutt's ideas and work resurfaced, drawn from the show's transcripts.

Rutt's Game B framework recurred as a reference point across the show's guest roster for years afterward — Chrisman Frank drew on it to describe a "parasite on Game A" strategy for alternative institutions, and Ben Landau-Taylor compared it directly to his own model of civilizational coordination.
Chrisman Frank, April 2022; Ben Landau-Taylor, May 2021
Producer Ben Anderson named Rutt among the standout guests of the show's archive when reflecting on past episodes, and Rutt's own recommendation led directly to a later guest booking (technologist Welf von Hören). Listen →
Ben Anderson, June 2021
Rutt's history running Network Solutions — the DNS registry sold for $15 billion — was cited by returning guest Rob Long as a real-world precedent when discussing decentralized file systems and digital sovereignty. Listen →
Rob Long, April 2021

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