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ATR Bayer Quitting RoundUp? NO MORE Soda in SNAP Benefits. with raw milk dairyman JR Burdick

April 18, 2025 · The Vance Crowe Podcast

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About this episode

Vance's weekly Ag Tribes Report brings back JR Burdick, a raw-milk dairy farmer from Linn County, Missouri, known for his X commentary on sound money and personal sovereignty. The headlines cover Bayer's public threat to exit Roundup/glyphosate production within "months, not years" due to over 67,000 pending lawsuits and $10 billion already paid out — both hosts agree glyphosate itself is likely safe based on the evidence but was badly overused, and Vance draws a distinction between agricultural glyphosate and consumer products like Scotts' Roundup-branded glyphosate/dicamba mixes that muddy public perception. The second headline covers Treasury Secretary Bessent's strategy of using tariffs to isolate China economically by pressuring 70+ nations, with JR expressing real concern about whether allies will actually follow through and whether a bad drought year compounding a trade war could create a genuine farm crisis; Vance references a Bukowski-inspired "go all the way" philosophy on tariff commitment. The third headline — the American Beverage Association's outraged response to Arkansas's SNAP soda ban — becomes a strong point of near-total agreement, with JR framing it as a "government too big" issue on both sides (egg price controls and soda restrictions) while Vance takes a more targeted view that welfare dollars shouldn't subsidize soda purchases. A UK cheese-tariff story leads into a rich discussion of lost American dairy/cheese-making heritage and Vance's own experience of a Canadian farm family gifting him heritage cheeses during a Legacy Interview. JR's Peter Thiel paradox pick — that agricultural consolidation has peaked and will reverse toward smaller, differentiated farms — earns a rare 9/10 score from Vance despite initial skepticism. JR's worthy adversary is Joel Salatin, respected but criticized for overselling small-farm economics without full transparency about his own market advantages. The episode closes with JR's story about his mother's dying words ("Rejoice in the Lord always") and Vance's continued reflections on recording his own parents' Legacy Interview.

“Bayer Chief Executive says it's the end of the road for Roundup... Bayer may halt glyphosate production due to costly lawsuits claiming the herbicide causes cancer... they've already been cost more than $10 billion in payouts while the company's held 16 billion back.”
“This is not, it's, it's not freedom... I think that this is something that if we allow accusations to knock something like Roundup outta the market, we're it's a dangerous place to be in.”
“A government that's big enough to control the price of your eggs by bringing them down and then control what you can drink by saying you can't have money to drink. It is a government that's too big and out of control.”

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