Ag Tribes Report: Trump Dumps Corn for Coke Made with Cane, with @FoulkShay
About this episode
Shay Foulk of Ag View Solutions joins for a wide-ranging Ag Tribes Report covering Trump's public push for Coca-Cola to swap high-fructose corn syrup for cane sugar (Shay argues the corn-volume impact would be marginal, but the symbolic/branding effect could snowball like the Roundup litigation did), USDA ending race/sex-based criteria for farm loans (Shay concedes such criteria were "structured around" for tax/business advantage but supports geography/need-based reform instead), and Trump floating farm-worker deportation exemptions amid MAGA backlash. The standout segment is an unusually deep, mutually reinforcing Bitcoin/land discussion: Shay walks through Bitcoin's 2019-2025 appreciation (25x) relative to land, and both hosts articulate the "demonetization of land" thesis — that private equity capital currently flowing into farmland will eventually flow into Bitcoin instead, causing land's monetary premium to evaporate even as dollar-denominated prices keep rising. Shay's Peter Thiel paradox predicts AI-driven, radically bifurcated ag lending rates (6% for data-rich low-risk borrowers vs. 15% for undocumented high-risk ones) within five years.
“The reality is there are people that are going to utilize those programs if that's the reality of their situation... it's just the way of the world.”
“You're starting to see a lot of people say, why are we making all of these perceived concessions for what we voted for?... The wall is not built... peace through strength and then we hit Iranian nuclear facilities.”
“If you had maintained that three and a half Bitcoin to today, you'd be sitting on... $400,000 that now buys 20 acres of land or 30 acres of land... where else I can go and get a 25x return in a six year period?”
Key moments
- Coca-Cola/HFCS story — Shay argues the direct corn-price impact would be minimal (~30M bushels, <0.5% of production) but the symbolic/branding precedent could snowball similar to the Roundup litigation wave.
- USDA ending race/sex-based loan criteria — Shay admits business structuring has exploited these criteria for advantage, argues for shifting criteria toward geography/community need instead of demographic categories.
- Farm-worker deportation exemption debate — Shay frames Trump's MAGA base backlash as stemming from a broader pattern of unmet promises (Epstein files, deportation pace, Iran strikes), predicts long-term labor automation via robotics.
- Extended Bitcoin/land "demonetization" thesis — both hosts articulate that private equity's land-buying interest will shift to Bitcoin once shareholders demand comparable returns, causing land's Bitcoin-denominated price to fall even as dollar price rises.
- Shay's Peter Thiel paradox — predicts AI/data-driven ag lending will bifurcate interest rates sharply (6% low-risk vs 15% high-risk) within five years based on financial data connectivity, calls current lending "highly relational" and outdated.
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